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Newgrounds' Identity

Posted by I-smel - March 12th, 2009

Ok so I've bin thinkin about this whole "new grounds" thing- Everything By Everyone n all that, and I'm not quite feelin it.

So here's the good side of Newgrounds- The side I tell my parents about when I get sponsored n shit:
It's a community of talented artists. No doubt, there's excellent games made here, excellent movies, excellent music, even voice-actors and straight-up artists. They throw money and prizes out to the crowd like nobody's business and they're popular as balls. I've got mates who only use a PC for music and Facebook; they know what Newgrounds is, and that's amazing. But I still don't like talking about Newgrounds.

I was watchin the awards video when it came out, and that's what made me start looking at it differently. I expected it to be dumb, and it was funny at first, but then I started feeling like the joke was on me. It's the conclusion to 2008, people are gettin trophies here, it's the Newgrounds awards- but it looked like just some YouTube video. I get that you had one guy and a green screen, that's fine, but "I'm gonna go look at fat anime chicks": Funny in a Youtube video, funny in some guy's blog, but I put some fuckin work into these games, an I'm proud of bein on the same page as guys like Ed McMillen, The Swain, HappyHarry n all that jive (I asn't even nominated, I'm just talkin about Newgrounds in general here). But when the guy who owns the site's up there: Without a community like this, Newgrounds would be a site full of hentai- It comes back around to just- Am I an idiot for taking any of this seriously? Y'know- Is the joke on me?

And that's one o those things that's allways in the back of my mind- Newgounds gets a fuckin lot of traffic for it's pictures of naked Dragonball Z characters. When I finish a game, and surely this happens to some o youz, people say "what site's it on?" and I have to stop n think "What's on the front page this week? Is it Portal Defenders or is it like- Meet'n'Fuck Nascar Driver? Cos I'm gonna look like a twat if everyone sees this game I've spent like a month on next to Meet'n'Fuck Nascar Driver." It just gets me down that I thought I was makin games for this hub of independant artists when now it just feels like some guys on some website.

What I'm getting at is- Professionalism. Every now n then, just put on a straight face. I like that Newgrounds'll sponsor a game where you get an achievement for punching a hooker, and I'm fine with these video game collabs they do; keep at it, by all means. But most people don't know what these awesome framed certificates look like, don't know how much money you buy these games for, Don't know about all the IGF PAX10 awards people are shootin for, don't know that you can make a Flash cartoon so good that random people will buy a professional fuckin T-Shirt of it and wear it. A FLASH CARTOON.
THERE'S your awards show. Don't remind me I make games for a site about hentai quizzes at the end of the day, tell me about the fuckin amazing successful people that come out of Newgrounds. Flash Gaming Summit, get in on that shit. Check out Glaiel- He's not just goin to presentations anymore, he's the guy fuckin givin the presentations. You've pretty much invented this billion trillion dollar web-games industry, you're the Facebook of web games, but you act like you're the Friendster. Does Kongregate have it's own vending machine? I'll leave you to think on that one.

So anyway, Robot Dinosaurs That Shoot Beams When They Roar's finished. Nobody's biddin on it though, so who knows when it's comin out.

okay EDIT- I just realised:
My name is "I-SMEL"
I posted a game full of swastikas about a guy who shoots with his dick while drunk
and I got Crunchdown sponsored by Newgrounds above everyone else cos they'd let me keep the swearing in.
What the fuck am I complaining about. I'm such a dick. Totally comin to my senses right now. Who am I to tell someone else to keep up their reputation, while I'm here: Perfectly fine games developer, wasting my talent on games about cocks, and totally loving it.
Dis-count everything I just said. Newgrounds is what everyone else is missing.

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NhollowWearthO

I take it seriously and at times not, but its the real artists that will have professional jobs, but it would be nice to be here in our community and not have the twat fuckers. This year everyone is just having a good time and anyone who is a newgrounds citizen knows whats up. I feel the same way when i talk about newgrounds to my friends who also only use the web shit. I always felt in a non-fascist way, a new swat team of users needs to clean up the site a bit.

I-smel

clean up the site of what?
I just wanna make sure we're on the same page.

fluffkomix

RDTSBWTR is finished?

then WORK ON YEAHBABY! >:O

I-smel (Updated )

well actually for no reason atall, I'm suddenly interested in that Rising prototype I posted a few weeks back :D

I'm busy for at least the next week on college stuff anyway.

DroidTronProductions

i like newgrounds before it changed 7/17/07 you remember when your profile was just that little pop up window or when you gave a movie/game review you would give (graphics) or (sound) (humor (violance) a certain number and then present your overall score? i know i sound nastalgic but i just can't help but to like the old NG better btw im really looking in to snes remakes im still hunting down the program and figuring how to get the file sizes below 10mb know what i mean?

I-smel

I think the interface and community stuff on the site is like a hundred times better than it was. I mean come on, I just made a news post on the front page and now we're talkin about shit, that's great.

Chdonga

I prefered NG pre the remake too.

I-smel

I think you're both crazy.

DroidTronProductions

your right it is better now but still they still should have kept the old review thing IMO but never the less things change i guess

GamerulerZ

Well the way I see, newgrounds hasn't changed much in the years. I've been around since 03 and it's been the same, litterily everyone and anyone can post what they like without being ridculed or repromanded. It's one of the few sites I can think of where there are little to no rules.

I think hentai and any other effortless creation plays a part(even if it's a small one) to represent that. Everything by everyone is it's slogan and I thinks it's been serious enough to keep to that. Since we are all apart of the community, it's only as serious as we allow it too be.

Whether it's after seeing something so appauling that you feel better about your own talents or seeing something so amazing that you have to be apart of it, I think any newcomer to newgrounds will take it seriously...even if it does showcase effortless crap on frontpage, that represents one part of the site. The other part is represented by you.

I-smel (Updated )

Well my problem is exactly that it hasn't changed enough. Newgrounds used to be some dumb site where you can get free games, and now it's 2009 and we never shook off that underground reputation of being punk as fuck. I guess I want to grow out of that. Newgrounds is more than just an out-of-bedroom website now, but it doesn't feel like it.

DroidTronProductions

say did you get that RAWR for your game or what ever

I-smel

I got like 20 from fatkidwitajetpak.newgrounds.com, and they're all fuckin great

PaperBat

Cry me a river

I-smel

hey well if Newgrounds is perfect for you then I guess I'm totally wrong.

DroidTronProductions

my cousin singed me up for an account around august 2000 i would be using it right now only a couple little problems don't remember the name password or e-mail OH WERE ART THOU ACCOUNT?

GamerulerZ

You have a point. it has been almost 15 years since newgrounds was created and despite all the great stuff it offers, it hasn't gotten even close to the recognition as youtube did in like only 3-4 years. I would like to see newgrounds showcased and respected besides the internet. Then the world see the glory that is cannon crotch, even though it has nothing on duck sim.

MrScriblam

i hate to tell you but newgrounds is never gonna be serious. the 13 year old audience doesn't want it to be.

I-smel

I've probably bin here too long

The-EXP

We're in the only sector of the industry not controlled by exec BS.

Even indie games when they want people to actually play their games have to jump through hoops for live arcade, PSN etc.

Yet here we are, having the time of our lives. And believe me, you will look back on this period as the time of your life. You're on the fast track to being a huge name I-smel. The quality of your work raises the bar, and I'm a big fan, you're one of my favourite of the younger submitters, don't worry yourself over such silly things and appreciate what we have.

When the NG staff stop making fun of themselves and enjoying the ride, I'm leaving.

Does Kongregate have Chocolate sauce to the face?

I-smel (Updated )

Yeah okay, exec BS is a big point. Like I'd probably rather build up my shit on Newgrounds than some boring faceless business. If you take it to the extremes, then indiepunk Newgrounds is probably alot more fun to make games on than a black-text-on-white-background Newgrounds.

I bet skimming under the radar like this is how they get away with alot of the un-PC stuff. Someone has to represent that. I totally believe what you're sayin about appreciating the freedom to do shit uncensored.

So Newgrounds' identity is probably exactly where it wants to be.

I love that we're knocking Kongregate for no reason. Like what the fuck are we talking about.

GamerulerZ

wow words of serious truth. Thinking about it now, it would suck if the admins started takingh stuff seriously

GamerulerZ

I meant to continue that, we would end up becoming fabricated and it wouldn't be everything by everyone, it would change from a democracy to a republic. O.o

I-smel

a professional Newgrounds would be a pretty good april fools joke

thedo12

you better not be dissin hentai

I-smel

no way man I crank it to chun-li as much as the next guy

djnet

and i also dont like how the staff doesnt take the site seriously...animations like lins dick are on the front page??? where did NG go so wrong...spammers should go to ebaumsworld and use the ripped off portal they have and stay there where 13 year old humor is still funny...this website just needs to be a site for people who are responsible and want NG to be a professional setting for insightful crtique on work...there is no way anyone can improve when you get reviews like "OMG SUCKS!"

and anytime i see something or hear something that is deep and inspiring someone has to see it and just rip it apart for not being a penis joke...

I dont know maybe we are the minority here, but i submit to NG so people can see and hear what ive got, and be able to better myself as an artist, musician, etc...

i just think people should grow up...

-DJNet

I-smel

I was mostly talkin about the site's aesthetic and y'know reputation and stuff. As far as the internet being full of dumbasses- Nobody can do anythin about that. I laugh at dicks like everyone else, but my main point was that Newgrounds does all this great stuff that nobody really knows about. Like there's so much more BEHIND the cocks.

Like I said to EXP though, the only real way for Newgrounds to keep it up is to play their cards close to their chest.

I am talkin such nonsense right now.

Perry

Yeah, I was a bit bothered by the small amount of professionalism in the presentation. But next year theres supposed to be a mural painting and shit, I hope that one will be more classy.

I-smel

Yeah I still do n all.

ZombieMonkey

I totally agree with you on this point. Every time I show one of my friends my movies on NG they get scarred of touching the website because it is supposedly the underground of the internet filled with porn and viruses . I agree that NG has evolved into something much different then it was originally and it should have MUCH greater recognition then websites like Youtube. But you should also keep in mind that we are very lucky to be able to freely express ourselves without limitations because of such nonrecognition. Imagine all the fuss some of the movies would cause in the media and all the shit NG would get into. Tom and the guys are probably just trying to maintain the feeling of fun and jokes that started this Place.

I-smel

Yep- Pretty much hit the nail right on the head.

Kyaztro

We don't take kindly to opinions around here

I-smel

compared to most places, you really surprisingly do.

Starogre

the 5 years that i've been here it really hasn't changed THAT much. just new people came and old people left. it's not as small as it used to be but more people can be a good thing too. you get to meet more people like you than maybe just the 1 or 2 from before.

as the hentai on front page thing goes, i kind of agree but kind of disagree. the inside jokes such as the shape movies and random portal influences and clock day and pico day etc are what make the community what it is. to the outside community, now that i'm older and have more of a social life, not many people know what it is or have only heard of it. it hasn't really changed much. we have.

and yeah. the people who submit serious things as opposed to crappy joke movies making fun of something like a crew or newgrounds community are the ones that will get a job doing this stuff in the future instead of wasting their time they spend on art, on stuff they end up admitting is crap in the end.

I-smel

How does anyone give a shit about clocks any more??

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